14 Jul 1645: Kinner, Cyprian, d.1649 (Brzeg, Opole Voivodeship, Poland) to Komenský, Jan Amos, 1592-1670 (Elblag, Warmian-Masurian Voivodeship, (Royal Prussia) Poland)


14 July 1645
Calendar: Unknown.



Kinner, Cyprian, d.1649


Komenský, Jan Amos, 1592-1670
Moravian pedagogue and pansophist


Calepinus, Ambrosius, 1435-1510
Italian humanist

Knapski, Grzegorz, 1564-1638

de Geer, Louis, 1587-1652
Dutch-Swedish entrepreneur



Kinner will join Comenius after the childbirth of his wife and he asks Comenius to stay in Elbing or possible not overseas so Kinner can stay with his family. They can also meet in Toruń over the winter. Kinner further discusses Comenius' Sensualia. He proposes for beginners to learn from nature and senses and not from books and letters. He is worried that Comenius' threefold way and accuracy of definition and axioms would make the work too voluminous for a beginner.



Responsoria mea ad praecedentem, de 26. Iunii 1645. Sal[utem]. Heri tuas, 26. Iunii exaratas, quibus ad Thurunienses nostras respondes, laetus lubens accepi.


Absit enim, ut statuam, te tibi ipsi hoc loco contradicere, minùs providè scripsisse! Vale. Bregae 14. Iulii 1645.

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Repository: Sheffield University Library City: Sheffield
Country: England, United Kingdom

Shelfmark: HP 1/33/88B-89B
Number of pages of document: 3
Number of pages of text: 3

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Hartlib catalogue entry

Turnbull, George, ‘Hartlib, Dury and Comenius. Gleanings from Hartlib’s Papers’ (London, 1947), pp. 396-399.

Transcription: Hartlib Papers Online: 1/33/88b-89b
© The Hartlib Papers Project, University of Sheffield


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  • Entry based on: CD
  • Varia/Notes (incl other copies): From the series of 35 letters by Kinner to Hartlib which includes copies of the correspondence between Kinner and Comenius sent to Hartlib as an attachment to a letter 1648 4 16 [1648 4 26]
  • Initials of person who compiled entry: JB

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Source of data: Added by Kateřina Horníčková; originally compiled by Jiří Beneš.
Record ID 200020, last altered by Miranda Lewis on 30/01/2017.

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